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Last ethanol article you'll ever need to read, Part II

Editor's note: This is the second of a two-part opinion piece on ethanol. Read part one.

Madison, Wis. - The environmental arguments surrounding ethanol are plentiful and confusing.

There is some evidence that ethanol increases nitrous oxides and ozone. These studies were based on computer models. Studies of the actual environment by the Environmental Protection Agency, the California Air Resources Board and others show that in the real world, ethanol use decreases ozone pollution.

Additionally, it is unquestioned that a switch to ethanol use is one of the most successful industrial means of reducing greenhouse (CO2) air pollution. The American Lung Association has backed ethanol initiatives because of its soot-reducing capabilities. Other studies show that ethanol use reduces benzene and formaldehyde pollution, substances shown to cause cancer. Less is more in pollution comparisons, and ethanol wins.

Ethanol does have fewer BTUs per gallon of fuel than gasoline, and in some cars this results in fewer miles per gallon. The offsets to this are that ethanol has higher octane, is a better oxygenator, and is cheaper. In some engines, turbocharged engines for instance, ethanol can get better mileage because those engines utilize the octane.
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A recent study of 10, 20, and 30 percent ethanol blends (E10, E20, E30) showed that in common, late model cars (not flex-fuel vehicles), the cars did get somewhat lower mileage - ranging from 1.5 to 5.1 percent fewer miles. This loss of mileage, however, was more than made up by the reduction in cost. On a $20 bill, drivers in the study could travel up to 15 miles farther on the ethanol blends.

There are some price anomalies in the ethanol market due to the switch from MTBE to ethanol as an oxygenator, but even today E10 blends at mid-grade octane levels sell for less in Iowa than regular, grade-pure gasoline.

Ethanol - what's not to like?

In my view, there are only two practical reasons and one political reason not to like ethanol. The first practical reason is that modern industrial agriculture does have an environmental impact. More corn means a larger dead zone at the mouth of the Mississippi River, and fewer shrimp fishermen.

The second is that a single feedstock approach to ethanol covers only a small fraction of our transportation energy needs - three percent in 2005 and only 10 percent even if we expand production to 15 billion gallons, an optimistic projection.

The political reason is that currently ethanol carries a 51-cent-per-gallon subsidy to the producer. Some don't like encouraging one product over another with subsidy favoritism. I would much rather temporarily favor my farmer-owned ethanol co-op than see subsidies flow to the mega oil companies and the foreign countries that supply them.

Given any of these drawbacks, however, I still feel that Americans and Wisconsinites should support biofuels and ethanol. That is because any negatives concerning ethanol are far out weighed by the benefits for the country and, specifically, for this state.

There are several things about the world situation that seem obvious and that negate any downside of planting more corn. The first is the fact that petroleum is in limited supply in the world, and that we are forced to buy much of it from unstable regions, from people that hate us, from people that use our petro dollars to attack us, and from others whose seemingly noble social uses of their country's petro dollars have degraded the production capability of their country's petroleum industry - further destabilizing the world petroleum market.

We should be thankful for the Canadians who supply us with a majority of our imported oil. At least they are still easy to get along with. Fuel security and national security are inextricably tied.

A single-feedstock ethanol program will not free us from these concerns. It will take other ethanol feedstocks, other biofuels, and other alternative energy sources. But as a country, we cannot use ghost arguments to keep us from going down the alternative-fuels path.

Corny reasoning

The use of other ethanol feedstocks will never occur without a healthy ethanol industry based on corn. Corn is the gateway to using lower-value, lower-impact feedstocks to produce energy.

Corn ethanol is the first step on the path to investments in other forms of alternative energy. Venture capital and other investment firms are now being formed to invest in biofuels and alternative energy sources. Their first investments may be in ethanol technologies, but their last won't be.

More specific to Wisconsin, I have a farm. I like the fact that my farm neighbors can put their harvested corn on a truck, send it to Monroe or Stanley or Friesland, and have it turned into fuel. The fuel isn't shipped from half way around the world, and my neighbors are seeing the best corn prices they have seen in 10 years due to the demand pressure from ethanol.

Wisconsin has a great opportunity in the emerging shift from hydrocarbons to carbohydrates. Wisconsin has a great corn, soybean, and dairy cattle agriculture base - key ingredients for both ethanol and biodiesel. Corn and soy are substrates for biofuels, and the cows eat the feed co-product. Neat.

Wisconsin also has a great forest products industry of people who know how to grow and process biomass. This will be important as the biofuels industry moves its fuel production to biomass feedstocks, and as processes are developed that make chemicals from home-grown ingredients instead of petroleum.

The key Wisconsin ingredient that adds value to all of this, however, is knowledge. Wisconsin is ideally situated to provide the basic research and the biotech know-how to drive this change. No other state has such a great combination of agriculture, forestry, a world-class research university, and strong biotech.

I don't want to see Madison become Palo Alto, but a booming economy based in part on what we grow and the knowledge we possess that adds high value to what we grow sounds like a good deal - and a good deal that spreads the wealth beyond Madison and around the state.

So the next time you pass a filling station with a sign that brags that they are selling "100 percent gasoline, no ethanol," keep driving.

John Biondi is the current COO of Lucigen, a Middleton-based molecular biology firm. Lucigen is in the process of spinning out a new company specializing in the discovery of enzymes for biofuels, and the new company will be called C 5-6 Technologies. Mr. Biondi will be the president of the new entity.

Comments

Go Green responded 3 years ago: #1

Yeh... anything that reduces dependance on the Middle East is good.

Bob Glynn responded 3 years ago: #2

Ethanol is not a long term answer to our energy needs. We do not have the capacity to produce enough ethanol for demand; at best we could supply 10% of our needs. By capacity, I mean enough corn to produce the ethanol to support our fuel needs. Additionally, due to the chemical make-up of the ethanol fuel, it cannot be distributed via pipelines but must be transported by tanker, resulting in regional market limitations. And finally, a recent investigation into the cost saving a consumer could see from running e85 uncovered that the cost were identical (e85 and regular unleaded = $3.11).

Jeff responded 3 years ago: #3

I'm all for reducing our dependence on oil, but I do not see the math adding up. I have a late-model car. When I switched to pure gasoline, my miles per gallon went way up, but they charge the same price per gallon as ethanol blends. I save money on every tank of pure gas I purchase.

Ted responded 3 years ago: #4

What about the ethanol plants themselves? They are not free in terms of dollars to build them. And ask the residents of Neceedah how long it takes to bring one online. There is no silver bullet, but I do believe ethanol is a giant step forward in changing our mindset relative to fossil fuel addictions.

Theo responded 3 years ago: #5

Ethanol, nay.
Biodiesel, yay.
Why comprimise corn? Look at all the natural resources available now: Wood pulp, recycled paper products from the state gov., seaweeds or algaes in our over 10,000 lakes indirectly produced by pollution to begin with.

Gary Dikkers responded 3 years ago: #6

Mr Biondi,

Here's my experience using ethanol:

Driving a compact pickup with a 4-cylinder engine, I usually get about 32 mpg while driving at steady highway speeds using gasoline.

When using E10, my mileage drops to about 29 mpg.

That means on a trip of 320 miles I would burn 10 gallons of gasoline. If I used E10 for the same trip, I would need just a bit less than 11 gallons.

But, 90 percent of that E10 would be gasoline. That means when I burn 11 gallons of E10, I burn 9.9 gallons of gasoline.

Whether I buy gasoline or E10, I burn almost exactly the same amount of gasoline, but if I use E10, I have to buy 11 gallons of fuel.

I now buy E10 only when I really need fuel, and can't find a filling station with straight gasoline.

Regards,

Gary Dikkers
Madison

Gary Dikkers responded 3 years ago: #7

Mr Biondi,

Perhaps you think the fuel economy I experience using E-10 is an anomaly. That's what I thought also. And then I discovered a very large sample size that correlates well with my experience:

The US Department of Transportation (USDOT) compiles data on the fuel used and miles driven in each of the 50 states. Using that data, I compared the average fuel mileage in Minnesota (which has mandated E-10) to our average mileage in Wisconsin (which as I'm sure you know does not have mandated E-10). The results are striking:

· In 2004 Minnesota drivers burned 2.743 billion gallons of fuel while driving 56.570 billion miles. Minnesota’s average fuel economy was 20.62 miles per gallon (mpg).

· In the same year, Wisconsin drivers burned 2.592 billion gallons while driving 60.399 billion miles. Our average fuel economy was 23.30 mpg.

Using a mandatory blend of 10 percent ethanol (E10), Minnesota drivers drove fewer miles than we did, while consuming more fuel. Minnesota’s fuel economy using E10 was 12.5 percent worse than ours - results that are consistent with my personal experience.

In fact, if you dig deeper, you will even find that mandated E-10 probably caused Minnesota drivers to use more gasoline than they would have using straight gasoline.

This is a true large sample size that corrects for variables such as tire pressure, etc. Our two states are near twins with comparable climates, topography, demographics, and an equivalent mix of rural to urban population. Yet Minnesota's average fuel economy is more than 12 percent worse than ours.

The only variable that stands out as being markedly different is the fact that their drivers are forced to burn E-10, while ours aren't.

Cordially,

Gary Dikkers
Madison

Robert Rapier responded 3 years ago: #8

Mr. Biondi,

Interesting that you cite the California Air Resources Board in your claim that ethanol use reduces ozone pollution. Here is what Senator Feinstein’s office reported:

“The California Air Resource Board (CARB) researched this issue at length and found that ethanol-blended gasoline does not help California meet the goals of the Clean Air Act as it relates to reducing ozone formation, particularly during the summertime, and, in fact, ethanol actually increases the emission of pollutants that cause ozone during the summer months.”

Source: Senator Feinstein Renews Call for Federal Oxygenate Waiver for California

Also, your claim “it is unquestioned that a switch to ethanol use is one of the most successful industrial means of reducing greenhouse (CO2) air pollution” is certainly not accurate. This claim is definitely questioned. Even the most optimistic agencies admit that due to the fossil fuels that must be burned while making ethanol, the greenhouse gas reduction is modest.

Maybe now you can begin to understand why this is a controversial issue. Proponents make claims, call them unquestioned facts, and then suggest that’s the end of the argument. I think I have a better claim to the essay to end all ethanol arguments at:

Ethanol Investing: Counterpoint

Cheers,

Robert Rapier

Robert Rapier responded 3 years ago: #9

Well, the HTML didn't come through on my last comment, so here is the link to Senator Feinstein's comments:

http://www.senate.gov/~feinstein/05releases/r-epa-oxygenate030905.htm

And here is the link to my ethanol essay "Ethanol Investing: Counterpoint":

http://www.financialsense.com/fsu/editorials/rapier/2006/0623.html

Cheers,

Robert Rapier

Gary Dikkers responded 3 years ago: #10

John Biondi where are you?

Robert Rapier and I have raised some excellent points deserving of your response.

* Were you aware of the significantly lower fuel mileage in Minnesota (with mandated E10) compared to our state? (Not a study by the way, but real life based on a huge sample size.)

* Why do you reach such different conclusions from the California CARB study than Senator Feinstein and Mr Rapier?

* Do you really think your article is last essay on ethanol people need to read?

Cordially,

Gary Dikkers
Madison

Cal DeMaagd responded 3 years ago: #11

Gary & Robert, I'm not Biondi, but I'm going to jump in here. Ethanol is just what we need. Sadly, we as a society keep looking at only bit parts of a solution. Using ethanol at 10% is not the best way to go about things. When blended 10% with gasoline, evaporative usually goes up. The better way to use ethanol is in making E85. The 85% blend has a much lower vapour pressure than gasoline or E10. That means less evaporative emmissions.

If one were to commit to driving on E85, your engine could then be tuned to take advantage of the increased detonantion resistance and faster flame speed ethanol offers. E85 can offer much lower pollution levels AND equal miles per liquid gallon, but your engine must be setup to utilize ethanol. Currently, new cars are manufactured as gasoline models with a few extra parts so they can also use ethanol. A dedicated E85 car would not be able to use gasoline. The problem is that we are taking a half step by running ethanol at 10-30%.

In the E10 example given previously, one needs to understand the numbers. E10 has 97% of the BTUs per gallon as pure gasoline, but many of the cars got 10~12% less fuel economy. Why would economy suufer 10% if BTUs are only cut 3%? It's because the cars aren't returned to the new fuel blend. If one 'tests' ethanol against gasoline in a gasoline engine, why is there any surprise that the gasoline wins? If one tested both fuels in an ethanol (or E85) engine, ethanol would win every time. I don't see how that proves either side's point.

Ethanol's problems are all political. All of the technical stuff is already solved. I am distressed to see the pipeline myth repeated so frequently. There is no reason ethanol and E85 can't go through our existing pipeline network. The problem, in Michigan at least, is that the pipelines are owned by a consortium of oil companies, and they won't let it go through. I have spoken to a station owner who said he would like to sell E85 at his station, but his franchise contract will not let him. The government could help with these issues. Cal

Gary Dikkers responded 3 years ago: #12

Cal DeMaagd said, "The better way to use ethanol is in making E85. The 85 percent blend has a much lower vapor pressure than gasoline or E10. That means less evaporative emissions. If one were to commit to driving on E85, your engine could then be tuned to take advantage of the increased detonation resistance and faster flame speed ethanol offers."

Mr. DeMaagd,

Thanks for your reply. What you say is of course true - an engine specifically made and tuned to burn E85 or even E100 would be more efficient and could get better fuel mileage than a gasoline engine burning E10, or a flex-fuel engine burning E85.

But there is a problem making a commitment to universal E85: There is not enough ethanol to make all the fuel sold and used in the U.S. an E85 blend.

If we were to use the entire U.S. corn crop and convert it to ethanol, at the most that would equal only 12 percent of the fuel consumed in the U.S. annually. That means we would have trouble making all the gasoline sold in the U.S. an E10 blend, let alone E85.

As long as corn is our primary feedstock for making fuel ethanol, E85 can't and won't be a nationwide fuel, and it makes no sense to commit to making special engines designed to use E85 (or E100) exclusively. (IRL racing cars now use high-compression engines designed for optimum use on methanol or ethanol, but the total number of engines they use each year is in the low hundreds – and of course the amount of alcohol fuel they use is infinitesimally small compared to all the fuel burned in the entire country.)

There is hope that someday we can stop depending on woefully inefficient corn as the primary feedstock to make ethanol (or butanol), but the day when all fuel sold in the U.S. can be 85% or more alcohol is still far, far in the future.

Best regards,

Gary Dikkers
Madison

Tim Nuckles responded 3 years ago: #13

Cal makes a good point about ethanol-specific engine tuning. Running higher compression engines, with or without turbo- or super-charging, could possibly increase HP and mileage performance from EtOH over gasoline performance. Dragsters and similar race vehicles have been running on methanol for decades.

In addition, a properly tuned (including higher compression) engine may solve the cold-start problems associated with current E100 use, which to my knowledge, is presently limited to FFVs (which can use E0 through E100; i.e., they are not specifically tuned to run just E100).

alex responded 3 years ago: #14

You still need gas to start your ethanol car. Corn doesnt spark.

Peter Roger responded 3 years ago: #15

Mr Biondi is supposed to debunk “easily” the anti-ethanol arguments but finally he did not reach to debunk them. (Pretty bad for person who works for a company involved in the ethanol process!!!)

Aureon Kwolek responded 3 years ago: #16

The efficiency of corn to ethanol will be doubled within the next 7 years. The new wave of biomass ethanol plants are self-powered from bi-products. They are supplied by cellulose waste streams, not even crops. In the near future, biomass plants will out-number and may undercut corn ethanol plants, forcing corn ethanol to level off.

Last year, 50 percent of the corn we produced went to livestock. Only 25 percent went to ethanol production, and half of that came back out as high-protein distillers grains (another livestock feed), and you get a few percent corn oil, another bi-product. So several products come out of the process of making fuel from corn. A percentage of ethanol in gasoline replaces carcinogenic. MTBE and burns the left-over gas residues that otherwise would be in the air we breathe.

A new turbocharged Saab engine designed especially for ethanol gets 25 percent more power running on ethanol than on gasoline, with the same mileage. The biofuels industry will eventually wean itself off of fossil fuels, making it totally renewable. Algae is being developed to yield over 10,000 gallons of biofuel per acre per year, instead of 375 gallons for corn. Up to half of algae is oil and can be made into biodiesel, and the other half - ethanol.

These will probably be our two transition fuels. Production of algae into bio-fuels will be self-powered and not require fossil fuels to make. We need to stick with corn ethanol until biomass ethanol cranks out large amounts of cheap ethanol from waste streams. When algae to biofuel is perfected, it will blow the socks off of even biomass waste.

Algae will revolutionize the liquid fuel industry. That's about 15 years away. We are in the infancy of biofuels development - There are many new exciting breakthroughs taking place. The 51 cent per gallon government subsidy is a tax credit that goes to whoever blends ethanol and gasoline – mostly oil companies, but now ethanol refineries are starting to do it. The criticisms we may have now about ethanol are to an extent over-exaggerated, temporary, and based on incorrect or out-of-date information. A few issues are valid, but they are being addressed.

With engines optimized for ethanol and biodiesel, and the new biomass ethanol plants now coming online, there is a huge potential. From our municipal waste and our cellulose waste streams alone, there is a potential to replace over half of our imported oil, without employing fossil fuels. In the coming years, depending on where you are, you can expect E-85 to be substantially cheaper than gasoline. Put the turbo (flexi-fueled) gas/E-85 engine in the plug-in hybrid, get you some cheap, next generation solar panels, and you're golden. You will be glad you didn't throw the baby out with the bath water.

Kristina responded 2 years ago: #17

I think ethanol is a good thing to use!

John Figor responded 2 years ago: #18

Ethanol is certainly worth more investigation and research. Don't expect the Bush government to take a lead in this developing industry. Don't expect the grip of dependence in the Middle East to be loosened (we must always remember what we're there for: Operation Iraqi Liberation (OIL).

Cheers,
John Figor
Houston, Texas

Jess Born responded 2 years ago: #19

I hate it when the left accuses the Bush administration of being oil mongerers. They might be. But that's not why the US is in Iraq, and that's not what this post is about. If it were about oil, we'd be coddling them to get good prices. The US is trying to keep the fight on the fundamentalist's doorsteps, rather than NYC, like last time. Besides, why then would Bush preach breaking the US oil addiction ('06 State of the Union), citing new biomass ethanol processes that his administration was funding research toward? If this were about making foriegn oil profits domestic oil profits, (i.e., annexing the middle east oil reserves) then wouldn't he want us and the rest of the world to keep sucking on the crude oil teat? I just hate that Bush and how much of an idiot he might be comes into any discussion, germane or not.

John Figor responded 2 years ago: #20

Don't forget that at least 15 percent of gas is required to produce E85 (A gas consisting of 85 percent ethanol). Blends of E85 are not routine at gas stations yet, and I wouldn't expect this in the near future. Fuels containing 15 percent of Ethanol are still on present in 37 states. Oil and natural gas still play an important and crucial role in the fabrication of ethanol blends, which means that although the amount of oil required with become lessened, it is still a fundamental part in the fabriaction of ethanol and alternative fuel blends. Citing something means nothing unless followed up by proof. I have not seen an enthusiastic approach to alternative fuel sources in this country, and that is certainly an issue here. Although I agree with you, let us not get too astray for the topic of this article.

Mick Davies responded 2 years ago: #21

It seems that aviators and mariners, whose lives depend on the reliable operation of their engines, are discovering very bad things about ethanol. The ethanal attracts water which is gumming up carbs and dissolving fuel lines. Several outboard engine manufacturers void their warranty if ethanol is used in their engines.

Alex Lowe responded 2 years ago: #22

"The second [problem] is that a single feedstock approach to ethanol covers only a small fraction of our transportation energy needs - three percent in 2005 and only 10 percent even if we expand production to 15 billion gallons, an optimistic projection."

This sounds like a fairly big problem to me.

Our methods let us extract 2.66 gallons of ethanol from a bushel of corn. If the entire yield of 2004 corn harvest of 11.8 billion bushels was made into ethanol. That amount of ethanol would be the energy equivalent of approximately 22 billion gallons of gasoline, i.e., barely enough to make a dent in the United States' consumption of 134 billion gallons of gasoline a year.

That said, I can't imagine that we'll ever use the entire US-harvest for ethanol. Realistically then, it doesn't seem that there is any possibe way for corn ethanol to fuel our society as oil becomes more and more untenable. That is, unless you know of some miraculous new procedure that can increase the efficiency of ethanol by two orders of magnitude. If not, then I would encourage you to rethink your point of view.

Tim Baye responded 2 years ago: #23

Nice work, John. Seems your ideas fostered more than a little bit of discussion.

To all. Transition from a fossil (ergo, made long ago and finite supply) hydrocarbon based economy to a renewable hydrocarbon, direct solar (e.g. wind, waves, ultraviolet & infra-red) geo-thermal and other will take time, risk and resources. This is an evolution that only recently got a jump start. Those of us that have been researching, developing, and dedicating a good part of our professional lives to an alternative to fossil hydro's recognize that this is not a linear process.

Therefore a request, critism is wonderful.... and constructive comment even better.... please, find a way to contribute to this evolution.

Tim Baye

Scott Mason responded 2 years ago: #24

Something not covered in your essay is the volume of water required to produce ethanol. You lose from 3 to 6 gallons of water for every gallon of ethanol produced.

TheTruth responded 2 years ago: #25

Hey you parrots spouting the last remaining anti-ethanol lies. How about instead of complaining about ethanol MPG, YOU GET A TUNEUP. Seriously. You people are morons. 1.60 for ethanol and 2.25 for gasoline and you are telling me a 5% mileage hit after an ethanol tuneup is bad? Uhhhh. Try again.

Ben Starks responded 2 years ago: #26

A "tune up" normally refers to the changing of spark plugs, plug wires, air filter, etc.

What is required to efficiently run ethanol is ecu tuning. Timing and fueling adjustments need to be made, and more then likely larger injectors will also be needed, due to having to run richer air to fuel ratios (I believe stoichemetric burn for e85 is in the 9s or 10:1? But I'm not certain). Gasoline burns stoich at 14.7 so, it's quite a large difference.

As a car enthusiest and turbo car owner, I look forward to increased availability of e85 and higher blends, as of right now I would see more then 50 horsepower increase from e85 due to almost a 10psi boost increase.

dakotatycoon responded 2 years ago: #27

John, you stated-
" The political reason is that currently ethanol carries a 51-cent-per-gallon subsidy to the producer."
This is wrong. It was SUPPOSE to be a producers credit. but, thanks to some late night lobby activity upon the part of big oil. It became a BLENDERS credit. No alcohol producer EVER got any of that .51/gallon credit you speak of. The oil companies got it all. This is the real world, It is NOT a level playing field. Those who benefit from the status quo will do ANYTHING to keep thier advantage, legal, moral, or otherwise. Multi-billion / trillion dollar per year companies would rather see the world burn than accept a reduction in profits. This may not be 'nice', or 'right', but it is true.

Maureen Harbourt responded 1 year ago: #28

There is no simplistic answer when it comes to ethanol and no one size fits all - so any discussion should not be generalized to apply to the whole country. A study by professor Mark Jacobson of Stanford indicates that E10 will cause more ozone in the Gulf States (areas where increased NOx causes more ozone), but E85 (which slightly lowers NOx) would improve the ozone in those areas. The reverse is true in California and other ozone nonattainment areas. E85 reduces some air toxics, but increases others. Both E10 and E85 will reduce CO. Different areas of the country have different air quaility issues. In an area like Baton Rouge, LA, that is in compliance with PM, CO, standards, but not with ozone, E10 does not make sense, yet articles like yours create the misperception that it does. E85 may or may not help, but a careful analysis is needed in any case. Stop generalizing!

niko le responded 1 year ago: #29

i find your article puzzling.
why would you keep driving if you get 2 miles less per gallon and and subject your engine to deterioration of any rubber parts?
ethanol is a national scam. you'll see down the road man.

David B responded 9 months ago: #30

I agree niko le. I might be a couple years late on this, but I own a boat and have had to do complete services on the engine 3 time in the last four years. I live in louisiana and all of the local stations are being mandated to carry e10. Now when I say I had to service my engine 3 times because of ethonal being corrosive, thats $800 dollars a pop. And thats at a discount. So sure you can come up with your reason to like it and just about everything has pro's and con's but ethonal is more harmful than pure gas.

JPBV responded 8 months ago: #31

MY Harley is a 97 Dyna -- the owner's manual warns against using any more than 10% ethanol fuel, it would destroy my fuel system. As it is, when I putt from VA to CA, the farther west from Kansas I am, the worse my mileage and performance of my bike. I go from close to 50 mph highway around VA, to as low as 25 mph west of KS. Granted, heat, altitude/terrain, and higher speed limits account for some of the drop, but overall my bike HATES CAs fuel mix.

Stephen Marino responded 6 months ago: #32

Ethanol E10 in my Bertram 20 Mercuiser 470 engine caused engine to fail.

It assume it dissolved the resin in the fiberglass fuel tank and in a process I don't understand deposited a black hard substance on the underside of the intake valves. There was no substance on exhaust valves.

Two valves became frozen and two valve push rods were bent with one rocker arm just flapping around.

One hydraulic valve lifter was pushed up out of its sleeve by I assume oil pressure. Oil pressure normally appx 50 psi dropped to appx 10 psi.

Engine was very noise prior to failure.

Spark plugs had a glossy hard black wet looking coating on them.

After removing head and reseating valves and reassembling engine. Engine appeared to run fine for about five minutes. (At this time I was using E10 fuel)

Engine appeared to run normal for this short period of time.

Next time I tried to start it it refused to start.

After being advised that E10 might be the cause of my problem in starting I replaced the fouled plugs, primary and engine fuel filters and using gasoline (not E10)that my son obtained 300 miles away- Engine started ran like a champ.

BTW: I have some neat photos of the long saga. One photo of the bent push rod and the goop on the intake valve is worth a 1000 words

Mark responded 3 months ago: #33

What good is ethanol when fuel economy is lower than the emissions it's supposed to reduce? That will only increase emissions and fuel consumption and will be a big waste of money. Please give us back our real gasoline. It's much more economical.

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